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    #29744   2008-05-19 13:04 GMT      
    I'm what I would call somewhat of a beginner fisherman. Right now I'm getting ready to pick out a new rod and reel and was looking to purchase some of the "better equipment". I'm just hoping that I can get a little help on some information so that I can make a better purchase. What is the difference between a spinning and a casting rod? What difference will I see with the different rod powers? Is there a benefit to getting a shorter or a longer rod? What are some of the better rods and reels out there as far as brand/models right now? Thanks in advance for your help!!

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    #29745   2008-05-19 13:08 GMT      
    Ugly Stick

    I only say this because it's the only one I know, lol

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    #29746   2008-05-19 13:10 GMT      
    mitchell 300Xe is a great reel and is almost carefree. and i like to use a shakespere experion pole

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    #29747   2008-05-19 13:52 GMT      
    get an ugly stik...medium action...6 to 9 ft...its cheap and reliable....flexible enough for bass and trout...strong enough for a 30lb striper...and for the reel, just get one that is smooth and has a good ball bearing set up with good drag

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    #29748   2008-05-19 15:39 GMT      
    I think the expensive rigs are WAY overrated.
    There's really no difference between a 50 dollar setup from walmart and a 150 dollar setup from one of the sporting good chains. and don't let anyone tell you different (exception being those pain in the butt casting reels which someone like you don't need to have anyway)

    I'd prefer a spinning or a quality closed faced spincaster (such as the upper end zebco or abu garcia products)

    I'd go to walmart and look for a decent combo or buy the rod and reel seperate. I'd honestly be looking for about 50 dollars and I think you'll do fine for a combo. The ugly stick is perfectly fine as is the Mitchell 300 reel. You're looking about 60 dollars with that. Good setup - hard to beat.

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    #29749   2008-05-19 17:30 GMT      
    Mitchell® 300Xe / Bass Pro Shops® Tourney Special® Rod Spinning Combo

    I like the 7ft rod but it really depends on what technique you will be using it for (see below for more info) Checkout the link for some choices.
    38-951-466-08 310XE
    6.8 OZ 5.1:1
    22"
    4 LB/100 YDS TY70MS-2
    HANDLE C 4-12 LB
    1/8-1/2 OZ 7' M
    2-PIECE $69.98


    SELECTING THE RIGHT ROD
    We're all familiar with the adage, 'you get what you pay for', but we also know there are products out there that are overpriced for what you're actually getting. Fishing tackle is like any other commodity, there are 'bargains' that aren't even worth the time it takes to carry them out to your car, and there are products that cost so much they should make the fish jump into your boat. Rods and reels are two of the most expensive components of fishing tackle and are therefore the most scrutinized purchases we make. Selecting a good rod can be a bewildering experience for someone who wants the most for their money. We ask questions like "What makes this rod so expensive?" and "Is this $300 rod really twice as good as this $150 rod?" With the unbelievable array of good rods available to serious anglers today it's easy to find a great rod that is perfect for what you want to do with it. However, at the same time, you could end up with something that might not be right and you'd be spending some good money for something that you won't use. I believe the most expensive rod you own is the one you never use. Even if it was cheap it was a waste of your money if it stays at home leaning in a corner. Conversely, you may have a rod that cost a lot of money but if you use it every time you go fishing and you love it then it was money well spent.

    Most rods sold to bass anglers these days are casting rods, spinning rods being reserved for specialized techniques and light lures. By reading our articles on various techniques, such as dropshotting, cranking, frog fishing, and flipping/pitching you can get a pretty good idea of the rod and action that best compliments each technique. If you're just starting out and want a good all around type rod our suggestion would be to look at our selection of 6'6" and 7' medium or medium heavy casting rods. These rods will work well for most techniques and lure types, and as you progress as a bass angler they will always be useful to you. Very often, the choice comes down to how much you may want to spend on your rod.

    The return you get for the money you spend on your rods will vary with how often you fish, how serious you are, if you fish tournaments, and other factors. In general, the more your rod costs the more sensitive it will be, the more responsive it will be, and the more accuracy you will be able to achieve. A quote from Gary Loomis, the developer of arguably the best rods being built today, puts some light on the subject, "I can build a rod you can't break, but you wouldn't want to fish with it". There are rods out there that claim they won't break but you won't see any of them on the decks of serious bass anglers or in the hands of any tour pros because they demand rods that are light, sensitive, and powerful. Sure those rods cost more, but for those they're worth every penny.

    A good rod may not instantly make you a better angler but a poor rod will be a limiting factor for any angler. Your rod is a tool, and a good craftsman will always do better work with a good tool. A good rod will allow you to feel much more of what's going on with your lure. For instance, you'll be able to tell if you're dragging your jig through mud, sand, rock, sticks, etc., and more importantly, when you get bit, which can often be hard to detect.

    Part of being a good angler is the ability to place your lure exactly where you want it, often as quietly as possible, and a good rod will definitely help your casting ability with more responsive graphite and perfectly engineered actions. The ability to create actions for specific techniques only comes with rod building expertise and the ability to use the best materials, which adds considerably to the expense. As a general rule then, a good rod will help and a poor rod will hurt your fishing ability.

    When you're shopping for rods, certain terms will be used to describe the materials used in building the rod and how it flexes. Different people use some of these terms in different ways, but we will try to define a few of them for our purposes in this article.

    Fishing Rod Terms and Parts
    Action: This describes how much of the rod deflects (bends) when you put pressure on the tip. A fast action rod will bend in only the top third or less of the blank, a medium or moderate action will bend in the top half or so and a slow action will bend starting in the lower third of the rod. Sometimes slow action rods are termed 'parabolic', meaning the bend of the rod is similar throughout the length. This description is subject to the type of rod you may be talking about at the time; a fast action fly rod or steelhead rod will bend much lower and more easily than a fast action bass rod or offshore rod.

    Most bass rod actions are fast to very fast because this action generally provides better sensitivity and faster power for hooksetting. By faster power we mean the rod 'shuts off' faster, or the bend ends higher on the blank, which means you don't have to move the rod as far on the hookset to get into the stiffer part of the blank. Fast action rods are great for most applications where a short to long casting distance is involved and single hooks are the rule, such as worm and jig fishing.

    Medium and medium-fast rods will usually provide a little more casting distance and still provide adequate hooksetting power. These actions are often used for applications that involve treble hooks, such as crankbaits and topwater lures or other reaction baits such as spinnerbaits. The 'bite' of a treble hook is not as deep as a big single worm hook and it is easier to tear the hook out of a strong fish, plus the slower action will not pull the lure out of the fish's mouth before it fully engulfs it. The type of lure you use will usually determine the action of the rod you should use.

    Taper: Often used synonymously with "action", taper describes not only the thickness of the rod but also the thickness of the wall of the blank and where along the blank less material is used allowing more bend. For our purposes taper is the same as action.

    Power: This describes the strength of the rod or it's lifting power. When someone says this rod has a lot of backbone, they mean it has a lot of power. Power ratings are usually describes as heavy, medium heavy, medium, etc. Power is closely related to the line strength; heavier power rods will handle heavy line weights and lighter powers will be good for light lines. It is fairly important to keep your line test within the limits printed on the rod since a heavy power rod will snap light lines too easily and heavy lines can snap a light rod. Power ratings vary by the type of rod described; a heavy bass rod and a heavy offshore rod will definitely not feel the same. One might be rated for 25lb line and the other for 80lb line.

    The type of water you're fishing will help determine the power of the rod you should select. Thick, heavy cover will require a strong rod to get the fish out before it can tie you up. Clear, open water will often require thin, hard to see lines in order to get bit, meaning you will need a lighter power rod.

    Responsiveness: Related to modulus this is an idea that reflects the ability of the entire rod to flex under load and release the stored energy in the cast. As we will see below, a finished rod may be the result of different layers of different material, all of which contributes to the responsiveness of the rod. One thing is for sure, the lighter the rod, especially the tip, the more responsive it will be. As Gary Loomis puts it, weight is the deterrent to performance. Overall, the higher the modulus the more efficiently it will store and release energy, which gives you the ability to flick an accurate cast on a lower trajectory.

    Graphite: This is the most common material used in building bass rods today and was first introduced in the 70's by Fenwick. These days graphite is produced using extremely high temperatures in a two-part process, one to create tensile strength and one for stiffness. Temperatures sometimes exceed 3000 degrees! Generally the hotter the furnace in each process the more tensile strength and stiffness the fibers have, which means you need less material to build a rod, and the rods you do build can be lighter and more sensitive.

    High tensile strength is sometimes called high strain, and the stiffness is known as tensile modulus or just modulus. To build a rod with high modulus and without high tensile strength creates a brittle rod. That's how some brands can advertise high modulus graphite rods with a cheap price; not all the expensive steps in the graphite making process are completed, giving you an inferior rod.

    To reach these extreme temperatures costs a lot of money and the best graphite is very expensive. The parallel graphite fibers created by the heating process are then incorporated into sheets with a resin. You can reduce the cost of materials by using more resin and less graphite, but you end up with a softer rod. You'll need to add more material for a stiffer action, resulting in a heavier, less sensitive rod.

    Another layer of fibers is laid onto the sheets of graphite fibers and resin perpendicular to the graphite fibers. This second layer, called the scrim, is almost always fiberglass. The exceptions to this rule are the G. Loomis GLX and the St. Croix SC4 graphite, which inco

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    #29750   2008-05-20 09:05 GMT      
    get a rod from st. croix fishing rods and a shimano reel

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    #29751   2008-05-20 15:16 GMT      
    Well, there is certainly a lot of information packed in the article from BassPro. I'll just skip to the rod/reel selection.

    If you're looking for something better than beginner, but not advanced, it would help to know a price range. If you're looking for a mid range setup, you're going to have to pay about 125-300. Considering a high end setup would run you 500-1200....200 isn't all that much! Personally, I have combos ranging from 50 all the way to 600. (And if I fly fished, I'm sure it'd be even higher than that!)

    Good quality MIDRANGE tackle.......
    For rods, look at shimano, fenwick, quantum, and st. croix. For baitcast reels look at abu garcia and shimano. For spinning reels look at daiwa, shimano, and okuma (not okuma's lower end stuff, it's inferior).

    Finding the right tackle is like finding the right pillow. You need something not too stiff, not too soft, and will be comfortable all day/night.

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    #29752   2008-05-20 15:57 GMT      
    What type of fishing are you wanting to do ? fresh/sea ? and are you targeting a specific species?. If i know what yer after i may be able to help.
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